Hans writes; >I must admit that I just subscribed to left-unity, despite my >disagreement with their moderation policies. My reason for >subscribing was that I want to know more about the Transitional >Program. It's really a pity that they won't let you take part, >Robert, this discussion is very relevant for your political line.But >my disagreement with them does not mean that I consider them >counter-revolutionary. Therefore even if they were to come to >marxism-intro to advertise, I wouldn't start a war about it. I would >rather say things like: this is their positive aspects, and this is >their drawbacks. But I seriously doubt that they will come to >advertise here. No Hans, it is not a pity, but a concious policy by the moderater team. I was never allowed on the "Unity list at Jefferson Village from the beginning. I do not consider the "unity" list "counter-revolutionary". The list is a collection of reformists,neo-Stalinist, and fake Trotskyist liquidaters. Their broad unity scheme will mean new defeats for the working class because this unity is based on a none program and strategy which can not lead to victory for poor and working class people. But taking back Proyect the yellow journalist who has accused a poor and working class person of lying about his activities during the war in Vietnam and of being a cop and agent in the pay of the American Government. These are accusations against a poor and working class person that has been living in exile in over 25 years and faces a long prison term in on returning to the United States. Proyect is welcome on the "Unity" list at Jefferson Village not once but twice! While Malecki who declared he would observe all the rules except political bans of groups and people has NEVER been allowed in to the Unity List at Jefferson Village. My crime obviously is existing! >Regarding your cockroach issues, I would suggest that instead of >posting a whole issue you should post selected articles which are >appropriate for this list, and give us time to discuss these articles. >On this list, which is to benefit beginners, we should aim for more >in-depth discussions of the material delivered to the list than on the >other lists. We don't want to be drowned in material which we >are unable to discuss. Hans, Taking on being moderater (which i hereby decline) on the new list does not mean i will be put in a straight jacket! Naturally i am interested in "in-depth" discussions. In fact i think that my writting does do this from a poor and working class and trotskyist perspective. At least the times i am not beating off the viscious slander and anti malecki garbage at Jefferson Village that is going on the last months based not on politics but Malecki and his book. In fact quite a number of people have spit on Malecki for existing at all! You are demanding that poor and working class people should *act* in a certain way in order to *exist* or be even be themselves. Poor and working class people are to abide by the rules set up by you and others that claim this is the way to be productive and not drown the list with material. But the lists are drowned with anti-poor and working class material of the most vulgar sort and this is allowed! In other words the poor and working class should make a revolution according to the rules set up by the present majority that control things at Jefferson Village. I am beginning to think that i do not belong here at Jefferson village at all. Because it appears that the only one that has to change and be put in a straight jacket is Malecki. All the others can do just about anything including accusing me of lieing about my earlier activities and being and agent provacateur. Obviously poor and working class people like Malecki are not welcomed but should be crushed, shit on, slandered and lied about without any changes at all except that Malecki should adjust to this kind of activity. I have been spit on and slandered and cop baited on M1. i have been banned and they have set up special rules for Malecki who never was a member of the Unity list in the first place and said that i would abeit by all rules . This was also the case with M2. All of these actions were because of my poor and working class activities which sabotaged the lists that were just fine until Malecli showed up. As far as Marxism International it is unclear as of yet what will happen in regards to the malecki problem. I am quite sure that it is being discussed however. The general trend of things that have happened here makes me state this obvious fact. And now i feel that you are trying to put a straight jacket on me. Why is it that Malecki is the problem. That there are special rules just for him on every list. No the more and more i think about it. I really do not belong here. At the same time people can use the vilalist of slander against a poor and working class person and be welcome if not applauded for putting the poor and working class exile in his place! It is a free haven for people who slander and lie. Who are allowed to write and publish just about any viscious slander or picture on Malecki. In fact it appears that people think it more important to be on a list then have any principles what so ever. OK i have to accept that reality. At present there is no place here at Jefferson village for people with my background. And being here means that the "marxists" are allowed to use any tactics neccessary to get Malecki. So naturally i will use this letter as a report to other poor and working class people about how one poor and working class person was treated because he wrote a book about his experiences and tried to take part in the political discussions to the best of his ability. But he appears to be the common enemy of all or most of the "marxists" at Jefferson village. In fact perhaps this report should and will become a chapter in my book. I think Chapter 20 I could call it. "After the end!"-- "A poor and working class person's experience with the 'Marxists' on Internet." Naturally including the declaration on the "Unity" list at Jefferson Village. Yes I am definitely going to do this. I think that the so called Marxists on this list are not counter revolutionary. They are just petty bougeois intellectuals who when a poor and working class guy like myself walks in joined hands and try to destroy me as a non-thing,lumpen, liar, cop. How dare a poor and working class guy walk in here after being raised in the slums in New York City and 25 years in exile because of his anti-war activities and think he has something to say to us "Marxists". This i could accept knowing that when the millions and millions of poor and working class people start to get it together i would find my place on the barricades together with them. But to be treated as a cop and agent provacateur in the pay of the government while the entire Jefferson Village lists quietly accept this kind of slander and accept the ban of Malecki on a list the he was never on or the lowest yellow journalism and slander and finally trying to put a straight jacket on him in order to teach him table manners. No it is not me that needs any table manners!