COCKROACH! EXTRA! PART 2 A EZINE FOR POOR AND WORKING CLASS PEOPLE. WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT OUR CHAINS. It is time that the poor and working class people have a voice on the Internet. Contributions can be sent to Subscribtions are free at How often this zine will appear depends on you! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- <http://www.ios.com/~dizzyman/haha/> Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Cristalball. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- CONTENTS: EXTRA! EXTRA! EXTRA! PART 2 The continuing discussion on; Congress declares war on the poor of America! The reactionary congress of the United States of both Democrats and Republicans has declared war on poor people. This in passing a "welfare reform" bill which in principle and if put into practice says to poor people of American--STARVE TO DEATH! Because of this unpresidented attack on millions of people by the politcal parties of the rich and powerful, I publish in an extra numer of Cockroach exchanges going on at present on Usenet under the header "Burn Baby, Burn!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ bhay@usa.net wrote: >Right... The average length of time a family remains on welfare in this >country currently is "13 years" ... I'm sure that you would be pleased if >we at least doubled or tripled that figure and, at the same time, >continued to bankrupt the nation. >Get a grip - get a job - and get over it - The free ride is coming to an >end and you may need bus fare from now on. >Bill No, actually if the poor take power we can redistribute the wealth and their will be plenty to go around for everybody. And if your going to work,what more noble cause to work for then expropriation of the interests of the rich and powerful in America. Because the only way to get rid of poor people and welfare that this system is responsible for creating is to overthrow it and replace it with a better system! malecki ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- <http://www.ios.com/~dizzyman/haha/> Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Cristalball. ------------------------------------------------------------------- John Bergsing wrote: >The cost isn't the issue...it's a matter of right vs wrong. If these >uneducated twits wants to riot then they'll have to suffer the >consequences. >John Actually the cost is the issue. Both American parties have made it quite clear that this is the issue. In fact a very clever tool to get votes among the middle class. And as far as suffering the consequences about rioting is exactly the point. Rioting in the slums has always been directed at the poor themselves. Not only were slums burned down, but hundres were jailed and a lot of people hurt-if not killed. That is why it is important to direct this energy in a direction towards the people really responsible for poverty. The rich and powerful of America. I mean they have already killed, injured and jailed people for previous rioting. So if poor people are going to get hurt it is much better to go after those who are responsible for their poverty. malecki ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- <http://www.ios.com/~dizzyman/haha/> Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Cristalball. ------------------------------------------------------------------- mdjones@metronet.com (Mike Jones) wrote: >In article <32050576.3056@iquest.com>, > "D. Terry Hazelrig" wrote: >I would not waste much effort with this Robert Malecki, whoever the hell he >thinks he is. Personnally, I think he is just another alias of that moron Dan >Dingleberry on another of his class-envy rampages. >Listen, it just is not going to happen as this idiot would like for it to for >very obvious reasons- mainly that it never has. I have already discussed how >the situation functions in an earlier post. >Malecki, whoever the hell you are- you're an idiot. Frankly, you bore the hell >out of me. >MIke. Why Mike! I assume the riots of the late 60ties and early 70ties were a figment of my imagination. Just as the riots after the racist incident against Rodney King. In fact the Rodney King incident and the aftermath are a good example of exactly how much poor people understand about American justice. Now they just have to direct their energies at the real enemies of the poor people. They certainly should not be burning down their own neigborhoods. Far better to take the war to the people who are responsible for the system. If they do this it will be a great step forward! If you want to stop injustice and racism in America then you have to go after the money bags. The great way and cry about terrorism today is a good example of how the rich and powerful are threatened with the possibility of dying. How do you think they would reaxct if the poor people went after the banks, the plush areas where they live, the corporations, stopped traffic or whatever in answer to the present declaration of war on the poor of America by the Congress and the entire political establishment of America. malecki ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- <http://www.ios.com/~dizzyman/haha/> Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Cristalball. ------------------------------------------------------------------- John Bergsing wrote: >Malecki: >You're a joke! If you really thnk this is the way things should be, try >moving to China. You'll love it there, you damn commie! Yes, a real Bolshevik Leninist. Heaven forbid that we threatened the rich and powerful and say that the poor should storm the gates of heaven. China? Why should i move to China. I was raised in the slums of New York City! In the 50ties you right wingers were screaming "The Russians are Coming". In the 60ties and 70ties it was the domino theory and you sent the poor and working class people off to die for your profits. Today you are demanding that poor people starve to death. So now we have to bring the war home and point the gun at the real enemy. And it ain,t the Chinese but the rich and powerful of America who say that we should starve to death! malecki ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- <http://www.ios.com/~dizzyman/haha/> Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Cristalball. ------------------------------------------------------------------- "D. Terry Hazelrig" wrote: > Definition of foward: Directly into abject chaos. Soon to degenerate into >authoritarianism, with someone who looks like Mr. Malecki dressed in combat >uniform, pointing his gun at Mr. Malecki, and saying "thank you for my >new found fortune. I will now, of course, have to kill you, because you >are a threat to my authority. Nice to have known you Robert....Bang!" Chaos? Hardly! Poor people should elect their own leaders in every neigborhood. They should organise every block every tenement into committees with representatives to a neigborhood parliment. Which would be responsible for defense, justice, jobs, food distribution and the like. Why leave this in the hands of our enemies. Actually it is the rich and powerful that has declared this war and are responsible fors years of horror in the ghettoes of America! And alll of a sudden when somebody comes along and says NO! No more of the rich and powerful being allowed to run over us now we fight back and give and eye for and eye, by taking the war to them. And yes we do question your "authority" that is the whole point. We want to overthrow your authority because it is a racist and unjust authority which means they poor people live and die in misery because of your rotten politics. It is the best thing in the world if poor people not only question your authority but overthrow that authority! This by tactics that are directed at the vital interests of the rich and powerful in America and not our neigborhoods. The million black man marck was one step in finding dignity! Now the point is not Black Nationalism, but class against class and poor against rich. Then it won,t be just a million man march, but millions of poor people of all color fighting for their interests against the rich and powerful. Because Blacks alone can not do it by themeselves. >> Strikes, occupations, are becoming quite normal there. So why don,t >> the American people do the same in a very spectacular way. It would >> have rebounds throughout the world. >It certainly would. The rest of the world would simply laugh their heads >off at the impotent efforts of such a movement, and simply wait for their >oppurtunity(soon to come after your *victory*)to make of the United States >a colony again. We have such vast resources(no longer extant in Europe in >commercial quantities), that the moment it became clear we have degenerated >into anarchy, they would simply mop up the weak, uncontrolled new "halves", >and take over. Ha! You would be surprised what the rest of the world would think! In fact two thirds of the worlf live under very poor conditions and a powerful movement of struggle in the United States would set off explosions throughout the world! And the patriotic crap about America being taken over is just bullshit. Poor and working class people have no country! In fact our interests no matter where we live are the same. Besides if someone were even to try and use the situation it would be stopped because poor people would make sure that it was themselves that had the guns to defend their interests and not as it is today where the cops defend the rich and powerfuls interests.. malecki ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- <http://www.ios.com/~dizzyman/haha/> Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Cristalball. ------------------------------------------------------------------- hittman@wizvax.net (Dave Hitt) wrote: >>Exactly! The Battle Cry of the whining middle class. >i.e. The People Who Work. Ha Ha, what a joke! As if the middleclass are the only ones that work. In fact the middle class is a skikt of people that take a little more handouts from the rich and powerful to keep the poeble under control. The paid lackies who are bought off by a system that smashes unions and starves the poor. >> Well, the tactic >>of cutting welfare is going to be far more expensive for the whiners >>about welfare that you could possibly believe. It is a declaration of >>war against poor people and will be met in one way or another. >I think most of the poor are too smart to fall for such bullshit. >Those who aren't will end up in jail, or dead. Bullshit! We are always killed and thrown in jail anyway. So if you are going to kill us and throw us in jail it is far better to be dead fight for expropriating the rich and powerful and redistributing it to all of the people in their interests... >>My hopes are that this time the jails are not filled with poor people >>who burn down the ghettoes. Better to go after the ones really >>responsible in a noble battle and die then let them kill us slowly! >> >And please, Malecki, be sure to be in front of the crowd, instead of >cowering behind the your PC. Take the first bullet as a symbolic act. Don,t worry! I stood in front of the crowd before and would certainly be very glad to do it again! In fact the highest honor for me would be part of a collective leadership of a multicolor party that would do everything in its power to overthrow the present racist system of America. Replacing it with a government of poor and working class people elected through their own popular organs of insurrection like the Paris Commune.. malecki ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- <http://www.ios.com/~dizzyman/haha/> Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Cristalball. ------------------------------------------------------------------- "D. Terry Hazelrig" wrote: >Robert Malecki wrote: >> >> John Bergsing wrote: >> >> >I agree...the welfare system, as we know it, has declared war on my >> >pocketbook! >> Exactly! The Battle Cry of the whining middle class. >Ignorant envy, the battle cry of the whining classless. Not really, the best the middle class can do is whine about their pocketbooks. So instead of fighting those who are responsible you join with the rich and powerful and tell poor people to starve. That is not envy! It is hate these traitors of the people who put their own pocketbooks before millions of people who will starve to death! >No. It is a declaration of people accepting the responsibility of self. >As for the trouble you will cause in retaliation.........Oh, I feel soo- >oooooooooooooooooooooooo afraid, I think I'll just polish my gun. If you >really believe that you can scare me, and others like me, into submission >you are grossly mistaken. I will not bow down to traitorous dogs who want >to bring my nation down! I will not give up one, single, solitary thing of >my own to force. I will fight you to the end, and spit my last dying breath >in your face if you try. But you will not have the pleasure of wining. I will >never admit defeat, and as such, cannot be beaten. You may beat me, but you >will never have what I have...the knowledge that I made my life what it is. >All you will ever have is the knowledge that you had to STEAL it from me. >Some accomplishment. I remember well how afraid the middle class was and is of poor people. Especially when riots break out. You immediately scream for more police and more jails! That is your answer to poor peoples desperate struggle against poverty. You are a hypocrite and coward. And i doubt that a determined struggle by poor and working class people will be stopped by the middle class or their cops and jails. In fact perhaps we should storm the jails during riots and free the people imprisoned there! Or why wait. Just take over the Police stations.. I do not want to bring down the American nation. I want to build a new nation based on real equality and real justice for all people. In order to do that we must remove those who defend the present system based on racism and unequality. Your position in society is preventing real justice and equality. Especially for the millions and millions of poor and working class people. Naturally the stuff about fighting to the end to defend your nice cars and pretty house is true. But you have something to lose! The poor and working class have nothing to lose but their chains and that is a big difference.. >> >> My hopes are that this time the jails are not filled with poor people >> who burn down the ghettoes. Better to go after the ones really >> responsible in a noble >What an incredible misuse of this word. You wouldn't know nobility if it >struck you in the face. Which, by the way, it will when you come after >what is mine. Not really. Your nobility is defending your interests and our nobility is finding a way to bring down a racist and unjust society. Just as in civil war or class struggle their is great heroism and nobility. It is just which side of the barricades one is standing that really counts.. > battle and die then let them kill us slowly! >OOOOOOHHH, the loving kindness of nobility! You are without moral, or >ethical standing, you leech. This is just your the bad guy propaganda. Both you and i know that morals are based on a concrete reality. My morals are fairly simple. By any means neccessary to fight for the poor and working class to take power and overthrow the present powers to be who would see us die as second class citizens in racist America. Victory to poor and working class people everywhere against the rich and powerful everywhere. Great morals I think... malecki ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- <http://www.ios.com/~dizzyman/haha/> Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Cristalball. ------------------------------------------------------------------- "D. Terry Hazelrig" wrote: >I stand here waiting for your self-rightous charge up my driveway. >I suggest you come in low, my wife shoots for the crotch first. >I am, sir, most sincerely eager, Good! While you are standing there in your driveway. We will take over the electricity plant and freeze you ass out. Or how about the foodstores, transportaion, and hospitals.. We won,t even have to come to you. You will be forced to come to us perhaps! As they say a hungry stomach makes great generals! malecki ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- <http://www.ios.com/~dizzyman/haha/> Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Cristalball. ------------------------------------------------------------------- "D. Terry Hazelrig" wrote: >Ah....nothing like the sound of a self-rightous theif on the net. Isn't >it incredible the ability of the human(or near human)mind to rationalize >any kind of criminal, cowardly, and ultimately fatalistic action to take >by force, what they could earn by work. It is not the care of the needy >you fight for son, it is your own selfish, lazy, greedy, hate-filled, and >barbarian ass you love most. I pity you son. You are destined to spend your >life as a looser. Well "Doctor", you have been putting us in jail all our lives on all kinds of crazy stuff. You have called us theives, criminals, murderers, and lots of stuff. Now when we say no more of this petty crap directed against ourselves. But lets make a plan to take it all from the rich and powerful and build a new system on real equality and justice you are still calling us theives.. I guess it really doesn,t make any difference what we do now does it? So why not try to take it all this time! >But loose you will nonetheless. The real problem you face is not in >weither or the middle class will pick up arms against you,(in spite of >what you say they will)it's the poor you will find impossible to motivate. >They are poor(in large measure)because they ARE NOT MOTIVATED TO SUCCEED. >They will find it much easier to flip hamburgers, than to fight for the >cause you support. Good luck motivating them. The liberals have tried for >years to beat such motivation out of them. You've got your job cut out >for you. Yeah, "lose", that is what you always say! You said it when the Vietnamese fought for their independence. You said it when we fought to abolish slavery. You say it like a song because you want poor people to lose. That is the whole point! That is why we have to rethink tactics in America. Especially these days when Congress declares war on poor people. No longer should we use tactics that hurt ourselves but tactics that hurt our real enemies the rich and powerful of America.. We not not SUCCEED but better to die trying then never have fought at all. I have no doubt that you would rather see pictures of poor people begging for food! I in turn want to see pictures of poor people fighting the real enemy. malecki ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- <http://www.ios.com/~dizzyman/haha/> Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Cristalball. ------------------------------------------------------------------- "D. Terry Hazelrig" wrote: >It would be interesting to see how you would react to the same policy >being used against you when you have *confiscated*(stolen)all these >assets. It would then be YOU who are the RICH. YOU who are REPRESSIVE. >And most importantly YOU who will have to face the REVOLUTION YOU SET >UP. Of course, this is not about the *poor* is it? This is about Robert, >and his Messiah complex. This is about Robert, and his personal *failure* >to succeed. This is about Robert, and his desire for REVENGE against what >he perceives to be holding him back(in spite of his SUPERHUMAN qualifications). >Of course it just couldn't be Robert himself failing to set a course for >his own future, could it? NO. It just has to be some other reason. Robert >is far to SUPERIOR to have not succeeded if the system was actually fair. No the same policy would not be used against a government who distribute wealth in and equal way to all. And we would not be rich. In fact all leaders would have no privileges other then the same privileges as all people in society. In fact especially the leaders in order to set a good example! The rest of your arguement directed at "ROBERT" is in fact a declaration of how things work today! This is logical thinking on your part. For you everybody is out for themselves! So obviously ROBERT is out for himself. But Robert has nothing for himself to defend other then the collective interests of all people who are poor and working class! So naturally any privilege that i deserve is also deserved by all otherwise i should immerdiately be replaced by someone who does not put himself before others. That is the difference between the ratrace you stand for and the system that is based on real equality and justice for all. >There already are....they are called inner city public schools. Great! Then let us turn these schools into a instrument that works for poor and working class people! >Class distinction is what you say you are fighting against. Gee, Robert, >you wouldn't be a superhuman hypocrite, as well a cowardly fool, would you? If you mean poor and working class people against the rich and powerful. I,m for that. Let,s attack the gates of heaven and tear it down. It doesn,t work for us, so get rid of it and build something that does work for poor and working class people. > At the same time and offensive >> against the corporations and banks from the inside and out to occupy >> them and put the real criminals behind bars or digging ditches. >Oh, well, it's your fantasy. Not really! The point is taking the war to the rich and powerful and make them pay! >Nothing like psedointellectual masturbation of neo-communisim for one with >a Messiah complex. Actually you have a point here. Although i am no longer religous both Islam and Christianity had some great principles. But the principles were taken over by a bunch of priests and they supported the powers to be against poor people. So actually some of the "Messiah" principles are very good! Things like all people are created equal and stuff like that. But i don,t believe in turning the other cheek. Thats crazy! >> Our slogan should be "We are prepared to work" when we occupy and own >> it in the interests of all people. >Definition: "That mean kid over there stole my football with money in >the store before I could steal it without money by myself. I'm gonna >tell my big brother to go over to your house, and beat you up, and >burn your house, and put your mama in jail...you meanies'!" No not really! It means that when this corrupt,racist and unequal society is overthrown and replaced with a system which represents poor and working class people then we will work very hard in making the system better and keeping a foot on the heads of those who would want their riches back! >> >> The second American revolution. >Definition: "Armageddon for all who follow this fool." Thanks! "Amageddon" if we do, starving to death if we don,t. Not much of a choice ther is it now. History for poor and working class people has always been built on our skulles so a few people could live in luxury. So saying that we are going to die is just ridiculous. That is what we have been doing all along. Mostly for the wrong reasons. Now, if neccessary, it is better to die for the right reasons.. malecki ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- <http://www.ios.com/~dizzyman/haha/> Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Cristalball. ------------------------------------------------------------------- "D. Terry Hazelrig" wrote: >BRAVO Sir Mark. Methinks thou wouldst enjoy a stroll amongst my own >retorts to the Black Knight! 'Twould be necessary it seems, to beat >off such spine-less, craven, and self-rightous twit's as the devious, >and dastardly sir(little *s* intentional)Malecki with the truth when- >ever possible. It offers both great chance at sport, and gives one >practise in the manly art of logical distruction of illogical appeals >to emotion. Not to mention a target(in Malecki's case)with the verbal >mobility of a paper cut out. Actually there is a bit of truth in the above. In fact that is why our "Doctor" has reacted to this stuff with not more then a dozen letters to the heade "Burn,BabyBurn!" He knows that poor people have "emotions" (real feelings) of outrage which history has shown us time and again. He knows that the possibility of riots and rebellion are a *real* threat to his interests. Especially if this emotional rage is turned in to a tool and pointed at the rich and powerful! And that really bothers him! This time, he is afraid that the "emotional" poor and working class people might put my words into some sort of mass action directed at the rich and powerful instead of burning down the neigborhood! If i was him i would be worried too. Because it would be the worst possible nightmare for our "Doctor" if this tactic was put into practice by poor and working class people. Because it would be a step in the direction of poor and working class liberation at the expense of his priviledge life in the present system.. malecki ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- <http://www.ios.com/~dizzyman/haha/> Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Cristalball. ------------------------------------------------------------------- username@prairie.lakes.com (gdy52150@prairie.lakes.com) wrote: >>Dr. P >well doc I think you may be right. Passing the so called welfare >reform without a guarantee was the pinnacale of stupidity.You may find >yourself very busy shortly in more than one way. Dr P., I hope you are right! Just think poor and working class people rising up and attacking the gates of heaven. Lets take it all from the rich and powerful. Smasah them and build a new society based on real equality and justice for all! malecki ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Cristalball. -------------------------------------------------------------------